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Tystefy
Tystefy
Posts: 405

14 days ago
I've been meaning to ask this one for a while.

Simply put: what do the dreams from the associated Dream qualities mean? Has it ever been proven? I have been unable to find any such explanation to them, only merely how to grind them!

- A Game of Chess = Glimpses of the Great Game, seen through the eyes of past agents (possession/vision style)?

- Is Someone There? = Parabola.

- Stormy-Eyed / What the Thunder Said = Storm? Worshipers of him? I'm utterly convinced that it takes around a year of grinding to even reach the "end" of Stormy-Eyed!

- The Burial of the Dead = Tomb-colonist secrets?


- The Fire Sermon = The apocalyptic event that is one of the cities crashing down on top the previous?

- Death by Water = Drownies? Mr. Eaten hotline?

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Guest

14 days ago
In hindsight it kind of surprises me that there isn't a series of dreams centered around the Bazaar itself...
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Honeyaddict
Honeyaddict
Posts: 322

14 days ago
About the stormy-Eyed: you can grind it up on an island it took me about what 7 days of actions at most to do it. smile
Edit: It's mutton Island the option "The Mutton Island Wind..." ; in that storylet there's an option that requires Stormy-Eyed and increases it with 1 CP and time passing with 2 CP. It's a great place to also farm Favours: the Docks while you're grinding Stormy Eyed!

Death by Water used to be tied to both the Murdergame that's now retired Knife-and-Candle [See false Baptist heads] as well as SMEN [see text in dreams: e.g. "North... North"]

I've yet to understand the Fire Seremon fully, but I believe it are visions of one of the Previous Cities falling into ruins.
All the others sound quite like my own hypothesis, the "Is Someone There?" as Parabola is also supported by going to the Mirror-Marshes (the only dream quality that diminishes when you leave there compared to the Betlehem/State of some Confusion)
edited by Honeyaddict on 11/27/2018

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Siankan
Siankan
Posts: 606

14 days ago
Except for What The Thunder Said, all of the dream qualities are connected with both Parabola and Mr. Eaten, to various degrees. Given what Mr. Eaten's old gig was, this is logical enough.

Also worth noting, all of the dreams except Is Someone There? are taken from the section titles of T. S. Eliot's The Waste Land. If you're wanting to play Schlomo and attempt to interpret the One-Eyed Bishop et al., that would be the place to start.

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Ixc
Ixc
Posts: 236

14 days ago
I knew the meanings of the other dreams, but where (which level) does Fire Sermon show the Falls of other cities?

PS: Dreams of Chess aren’t glimpses of the actual Game as we understand it; rather, if I interpret the Great Game item correctly, a resonance of the War in Heaven, in a form we can understand.
edited by Ixc on 11/28/2018

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Optimatum
Optimatum
Posts: 3340

14 days ago
You're more or less correct about most of them, but the Fire Sermon is about the war over dreams between Mr Wines and Mr Spices.

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Guest

14 days ago
Is it me or is Mr Spices a character so underutilized that he barely exists? Literally the only time I've ever seen him come up was at the tail end of finishing off the Jack of Smiles behind a pretty steep fate wall & action grind...
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Optimatum
Optimatum
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14 days ago
You're right that he doesn't show up much, but he appears in one of the regular Jack of Smiles Case endings, no money required. The Fate ending is just the other two combined.

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For the holiday season, send me Christmas Cards for sips of Cider! Fogscapes with Tentacles strongly preferred. (Only one per character, sorry!)

PM me for information enigmatic or Fated. Though the forum please, not FL itself.
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Skinnyman
Skinnyman
Posts: 1557

14 days ago
Optimatum wrote:
You're more or less correct about most of them, but the Fire Sermon is about the war over dreams between Mr Wines and Mr Spices.
Care to share more about this?

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Honeyaddict
Honeyaddict
Posts: 322

13 days ago
Skinnyman wrote:
Optimatum wrote:
You're more or less correct about most of them, but the Fire Sermon is about the war over dreams between Mr Wines and Mr Spices.
Care to share more about this?




If I recall correctly [spoiler]


The two Masters, Mr. Spices and Mr. Wines both wanted the dreams after Mr. Eaten/Candles died, having left behind the candles and dreams. Thus they wage war on one another to determine who gets to control the realm of dreams. Mr. Candles still controls the dreams however.

**Edit: the path to dreams Credit to Ixc for correcting me smile [including but limited to Prisoner's Honey ]

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SMEN spoiler; you've been warned.
edited by Honeyaddict on 11/28/2018

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pleasure to meet you.

Has some strange ideas the Masters probably won't approve of like some items and establishing a Colony in Parabola.

Please send me a calling card first, I will accept most social interactions. I do enjoy role playing as well, cheers!
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Ixc
Ixc
Posts: 236

13 days ago
Well, more accurately the paths to dreams, like Prisoner’s Honey.

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Are you a Paramount Presence? Record your name here. For posterity, of course.

Out of the night that covers me,
Black as the pit from pole to pole,
I thank whatever gods may be
For my unconquerable soul.
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Tystefy
Tystefy
Posts: 405

13 days ago
My favorite snippet from the Dreams is this: https://www.fallenlondon.com/profile/Tystefy/11865053

Finally. Someone makes sense, and it's me!

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Skinnyman
Skinnyman
Posts: 1557

13 days ago
Many thanks, many thanks!
But where can one learn about this?

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The Elfin Cannibal
The Elfin Cannibal
Posts: 162

10 days ago
Skinnyman wrote:
Many thanks, many thanks!
But where can one learn about this?

Go Seeking? :p

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I fear I've gone Seeking, for of Him I'm fond.
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Skinnyman
Skinnyman
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10 days ago
The Elfin Cannibal wrote:
Skinnyman wrote:
Many thanks, many thanks!
But where can one learn about this?

Go Seeking? :p
Even came back, but I don't really recall these tiny bits. Probably because I did it over the course of too many months or there are some connections I have yet made.

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Jolanda Swan
Jolanda Swan
Posts: 925

9 days ago
The I'm a Candle Tumblr! It has incredible lore. The game became much more enjoying and less confusing for me after I found it.

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TheDoomedLieutenant
TheDoomedLieutenant
Posts: 3

8 days ago
Sorry if out-of-game discussion is off-topic for the Salons, I'm still not that acquinted with how things work here, but I do have something to add.

It's also perhaps worth noting that the names of the Dream storylines, the names of specific Dream cards, and even some lines themselves are taken from T. S. Elliot's poem The Waste Land. This creates some themes that don't quite match up with anything in Fallen London lore. For example, how four of the Dreams are associated with the four elements: Earth-Burial, Fire-Sermon, Air-Thunder, Water-Death.
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Lorelai
Lorelai
Posts: 45

8 days ago
Speaking of dreams, is there a specific unlock quality to get the chess dreams? I've been using every single dream card since I joined FL and all of my other dreams are anywhere from 8-15 and I have Stormy Eyed, but I've never once seen a card for the Chess dreams.
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Skinnyman
Skinnyman
Posts: 1557

8 days ago
Lorelai wrote:
Speaking of dreams, is there a specific unlock quality to get the chess dreams? I've been using every single dream card since I joined FL and all of my other dreams are anywhere from 8-15 and I have Stormy Eyed, but I've never once seen a card for the Chess dreams.
Nop! It's just damn rare because of RNG. Seems that many people have a small problem with the start, but you can always use Nadir's card.
And I think that dreams are meant to take a lot of time to increase; all depending how active you are and how many cards you draw per day.

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