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Phèdre Delaunay
Phèdre Delaunay
Posts: 13

17 days ago
I loved this story, although it was not as nerve-wracking and frayed with indecision as others, as I knew from the start I wanted to go with the Revolutionaries.

I really loved the intimate moment between November and the masked guy... I think the real theme here is how hard it is to let go of ideals, to move on and accept that you've changed.
November still dislikes the Minister, so yes, she's tecnically still a revolutionary - but you can sense the Liberation of Night has lost all meaning for her. For the masked guy too, probably, but he's the kind of person who lived and breathed for a cause, and letting go of it would be terrifying to him - he and November clearly shared something, maybe it was love but even so, it was the love that stems from a common goal. And November can't find it in herself to tell him that she doesn't really care anymore - I thought that moment was incredibly touching and sad.
In the end, she's prepared to be potentially arrested for a cause that is not even hers anymore, rather than disappoint an old friend. I think her letter in the epilogue might mean that she resigned from the Council, although that's not clear... well, anyway, I found her really interesting.
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Jolanda Swan
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16 days ago
That was one of the most touching elements of the story, along with the everyday family, and the noble making fun of the fop. Small moments all, and yet so real in themselves.

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Lady Karnstein
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16 days ago
I, and Caroline, really enjoyed this one. I felt a bit pressed to action at the end (Caroline would have preferred, for the most part, to watch it play out once the parade arrived) but still it was very good, the writing was top notch, and all those little details coming up was just marvelous. It was an absolute joy to play.

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Nudraxon
Nudraxon
Posts: 13

16 days ago
On November's fingernails:
[spoiler] At one point, the leader of the masked parade says "For plans have been set in motion, and laid to the fingernail." This leads me to suspect that the stars painted on November's nails are actually some elaborate code, possibly about her future plans. Although it is entirely possible that I am reading too much into this. [\spoiler]
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Nudraxon
Nudraxon
Posts: 13

16 days ago
Phèdre Delaunay wrote:
I really loved the intimate moment between November and the masked guy... I think the real theme here is how hard it is to let go of ideals, to move on and accept that you've changed.
November still dislikes the Minister, so yes, she's tecnically still a revolutionary - but you can sense the Liberation of Night has lost all meaning for her. For the masked guy too, probably, but he's the kind of person who lived and breathed for a cause, and letting go of it would be terrifying to him - he and November clearly shared something, maybe it was love but even so, it was the love that stems from a common goal. And November can't find it in herself to tell him that she doesn't really care anymore - I thought that moment was incredibly touching and sad.
In the end, she's prepared to be potentially arrested for a cause that is not even hers anymore, rather than disappoint an old friend. I think her letter in the epilogue might mean that she resigned from the Council, although that's not clear... well, anyway, I found her really interesting.


I personally interpreted that moment a little differently.
[spoiler] Going back to November's sketchbook metaphor, the "Beautiful drawings in the centre of pages" would be her actual plans, possibly related to the Liberation. The little sketches in the margins would be her little ideas that she had no intention of actually carrying out. Like, for instance, wouldn't it be fun to stage a mini-Liberation in the middle of a public celebration? However, when she became a revolutionary leader who clearly inspired many people, some people took those ides seriously. And when she finds out, she decides to go along with it, rather than telling the truth and letting down all of the people whom she has inspired. I personally saw that more as a reflection on how leaders of movements can be held up as symbols, to the point where they can't even have ordinary human flaws (such as, say, forgetfulness), as many people will be willing to follow even their least thought-through ideas.


While she clearly has been out of action for a while (possibly relating to memory problems?), I'm not sure if that means that she has given up her cause. I didn't really see anything in her letter that indicated to me that she was resigning from the Council. The fact that she sends you one of the masks could be seen as a passing of the torch, but it could also be seen as her re-committing to her cause.


Of course, I could be entirely wrong about all of this. [\spoiler]
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Monara
Monara
Posts: 73

16 days ago
I personally interpreted that moment a little differently.

That's how I read it as well.
Maybe this has been mentioned before but if I remember correctly the mask we were sent had the attachment points for the strap snapped off, so it could not be actually worn anymore. I'm sure this has some significance, but I'm not sure what yet.

Edit:
This is the part I was referring to:
The metal rings through which a fastening would have been threaded have been neatly and purposefully cut.

So it's definitely to prevent the mask from being worn again, but why send it to us?
edited by Monara on 10/31/2018

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Phèdre Delaunay
Phèdre Delaunay
Posts: 13

16 days ago
Monara wrote:
I personally interpreted that moment a little differently.
So it's definitely to prevent the mask from being worn again, but why send it to us?
edited by Monara on 10/31/2018


Yep. And, she sends the list of names, which she most definitely wouldn't do as an active leader of a cell. I think she looks so very tired - I don't remember the story mentioning how old she is, but I'd be curious to know...
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Nudraxon
Nudraxon
Posts: 13

15 days ago
Phèdre Delaunay wrote:

Yep. And, she sends the list of names, which she most definitely wouldn't do as an active leader of a cell.

The list of names was in the first package, sent by an unknown revolutionary, not in the box sent by November. I am still a bit confused as to why any revolutionary would send someone such a list. Maybe it's a sign of trust.
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Raihan
Raihan
Posts: 38

15 days ago
Nudraxon wrote:
Phèdre Delaunay wrote:
I really loved the intimate moment between November and the masked guy... I think the real theme here is how hard it is to let go of ideals, to move on and accept that you've changed.
November still dislikes the Minister, so yes, she's tecnically still a revolutionary - but you can sense the Liberation of Night has lost all meaning for her. For the masked guy too, probably, but he's the kind of person who lived and breathed for a cause, and letting go of it would be terrifying to him - he and November clearly shared something, maybe it was love but even so, it was the love that stems from a common goal. And November can't find it in herself to tell him that she doesn't really care anymore - I thought that moment was incredibly touching and sad.
In the end, she's prepared to be potentially arrested for a cause that is not even hers anymore, rather than disappoint an old friend. I think her letter in the epilogue might mean that she resigned from the Council, although that's not clear... well, anyway, I found her really interesting.


I personally interpreted that moment a little differently.
[spoiler] Going back to November's sketchbook metaphor, the "Beautiful drawings in the centre of pages" would be her actual plans, possibly related to the Liberation. The little sketches in the margins would be her little ideas that she had no intention of actually carrying out. Like, for instance, wouldn't it be fun to stage a mini-Liberation in the middle of a public celebration? However, when she became a revolutionary leader who clearly inspired many people, some people took those ides seriously. And when she finds out, she decides to go along with it, rather than telling the truth and letting down all of the people whom she has inspired. I personally saw that more as a reflection on how leaders of movements can be held up as symbols, to the point where they can't even have ordinary human flaws (such as, say, forgetfulness), as many people will be willing to follow even their least thought-through ideas.


While she clearly has been out of action for a while (possibly relating to memory problems?), I'm not sure if that means that she has given up her cause. I didn't really see anything in her letter that indicated to me that she was resigning from the Council. The fact that she sends you one of the masks could be seen as a passing of the torch, but it could also be seen as her re-committing to her cause.


Of course, I could be entirely wrong about all of this. [\spoiler]


Sorry to be a bother, but would you by any chance have the echo of that moment?

Thanks either way.
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Monara
Monara
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15 days ago
Raihan wrote:
Thanks either way.


This is the one:
https://www.fallenlondon.com/profile/Miranah/15017848

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James Sinclair
James Sinclair
Posts: 184

9 days ago
I had an absolute blast with this one, and really enjoyed livening up Bonfire Night to make it quite a bit more memorable than the Minister originally planned (honestly, he should thank me for the help). In particular, this ES had a feature that I particularly enjoy: a "hub" area with various branches that you can explore and investigate at your leisure without some kind of countdown clock constraining your actions. There were some great minor characters too, like the Skeptic and of course the dog. And I love the artwork for this one -- that bone mask is terrifying!

I did find it a bit odd that urchins were going around collecting firewood, as I was under the impression that most household fires in Fallen London used either coal or gas. Wood, after all, would have to be imported, and so would be quite a luxury. I suppose that does explain the rarity, though, and why the urchins are hoarding it.

For anyone who enjoyed A Little Pandemonium, I encourage you to check out a hilarious short game that Jack de Quidt (the writer of this Exceptional Story) worked on called "Dr. Langeskov, The Tiger, and The Terribly Cursed Emerald: A Whirlwind Heist". It's free on both Steam and itch, and I highly recommend it if you're in the mood for some madcap mischief.

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Great Pigmeat
Great Pigmeat
Posts: 8

9 days ago
My interpretation is that November is still a Revolutionary. However, the Masked Parade is a Revolutionary Cell that's been lost and disconnected somehow, nevertheless they carried out the plans for the Spectacle, originally designed by November.
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PSGarak
PSGarak
Posts: 593

7 days ago
In digging into November's identity and motivation, this quote in particular is lodged in my mind.
November wrote:
"Of course I remember," she says. "Every waking day."

Source: https://www.fallenlondon.com/profile/PSGarak/15144059 (Emphasis not in the original.)

It's an odd phrase to use. It sticks out. I feel like there's a lot of weight in those words, with a very subtle message... and I don't know what it is. But it begs a connection to Dreams, which would point back in the general direction of Lilac. I'm not familiar enough with Lilac to really weigh in on that connection.

I wonder if November's appearance here is setting the stage for something in Sunless Skies.

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hwoosh
hwoosh
Posts: 81

7 days ago
PSGarak wrote:
In digging into November's identity and motivation, this quote in particular is lodged in my mind.
November wrote:
&quotOf course I remember,&quot she says. &quotEvery waking day.&quot

Source: https://www.fallenlondon.com/profile/PSGarak/15144059 (Emphasis not in the original.)

It's an odd phrase to use. It sticks out. I feel like there's a lot of weight in those words, with a very subtle message... and I don't know what it is. But it begs a connection to Dreams, which would point back in the general direction of Lilac. I'm not familiar enough with Lilac to really weigh in on that connection.

I wonder if November's appearance here is setting the stage for something in Sunless Skies.


I haven't played the story yet, but I think you might be reading too much into it. "Every waking day" is certainly a more emphatic expression than "every day", but it's not an especially unusual phrase.

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Arcengal
Arcengal
Posts: 69

7 days ago
I fully planned to let the fireworks go off. Tis Guy Fawkes, after all. I tried to stop everything else and protect the revolutionary on the basis she seemed to want to give the Ministry a bloody nose rather than cause any real harm, then, well, everything went pear-shaped after that. I swore a little when I saw her name as I'm really anti-Revolutionary, though I'm not a huge fan of Mr Pages' little morality crew either.

Anyone have a link to an echo where the Revolutionaries get to burn their effigy? I couldn't figure out who it was.

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Jolanda Swan
Jolanda Swan
Posts: 858

7 days ago
It was the very man who hires you to help, I think!
edited by Jolanda Swan on 11/9/2018

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Deathjack999
Deathjack999
Posts: 58

7 days ago
[spoiler] What if November is the portion of Millicent that you find during the acquirement of St Erzulie's Candle?
She does say she's the piece of Lilac that could never learn to love the Bazaar.
edited by Deathjack999 on 11/9/2018
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Isaac Gates
Isaac Gates
Posts: 119

6 days ago
No, because that part can't leave the Nadir until someone takes the candle.

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silurica
silurica
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6 days ago
Deathjack999 wrote:
-snip-


[spoiler]No, for the reason mentioned above, and also that part of her isn't the most tangible thing in existence.

Queen of Inks wrote:
(You can take the candle. But I can't give it up. All I am left is its watcher. Take it, and you take me too. I love you. You imagined me. What else could I do but love you?)
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