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29 days ago
I dunno, it could run things by proxy via a Drownie.
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Catherine Raymond
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29 days ago
Jolanda Swan wrote:
November would be great, and it would establish her as a character, but maybe that would too many anarchists in a row?


Too many anarchists? London has been subsisting in a subterranean cavern with bats living mostly on mushrooms for 30 + years! There cannot be too many anarchists in those circumstances so far as I am concerned.

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Catherine Raymond
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29 days ago
Sir Frederick wrote:
Forgive me repeating myself, but I don't think the Parliamentarian would be a good choice, because she's a player-designed character from one of the Silver Tree pledge rewards.


I think she would be a poor choice for another reason--she's NORTHBOUND! Does London really want to elect a Mayor who may tear off to the NORTH in the middle of her term?

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29 days ago
That would actually be a pretty fun event. Mayor takes off in the middle of her term- what do we do next? Chase her down and bring her back? Call for an early election?
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Siankan
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13 days ago
So I thought (silly me) that it would be fun to make a candidate mockup for each of the non-human species I mentioned earlier. This was, of course, absurd. however, after struggling for some time with platforms and possibilities, one candidate did emerge as a coherent possibility. Consider the following:

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The Pirate Poet
Slogan: Write your own future! (alt. The future is unwritten!)

Platform: The Pirate-Poet promises to make London into a city where birth means nothing, and where anything is possible for the sufficiently determined. There is always a candidate aiming to break the Great Chain (and these candidates have a tendency to win); the Pirate-Poet fits squarely in this tradition. Not even Feducci so embodies revolutionary ideas.

Support: The Pirate-Poet is clearly aligned with the Revolutionaries, and also likely to be popular with the Bohemians. Her contacts and message may bring together these factions, Urchins, and Criminals for a coalition of the down-and-out (but, note, a very different one from the coalitions that supported Feducci and the Campaigner). The Dockers could go either way, depending on balance needs; many in Wolfstack have reason to hold a grudge, but she is also the first zailing candidate and many others might be happy just to get her on their side for once.

Opponents: Any revolutionary is going to make enemies among supporters of the status quo, which in London means Society, Church, and Constables. (It also means the Masters, though their heavy influence is no felt directly in matters political.) In addition, Society is unlikely to willingly allow a Clay (Wo)Man to participate in politics, and the Constables have issues with her illegal activities. The Church is likely to be divided, I think, and be the weakest force against her. (If Hell supports her, this may change.)

Problems: The legal problems here are staggering, but for our purposes that just means lots of interesting drama. (If Feducci and the Captivating Princess can run, I do not think Clayness is going to be an insurmountable barrier to Failbetter.) A more serious problem, however, is her likely appeal. The Pirate-Poet is a popular character on her own, especially (but by no means exclusively) to Sunless Sea players. Also, her nature is likely to appeal to those who view gender and sexuality in fluid terms (which, to judge from the forum, is not an insignificant portion of PCs), which will almost certainly tilt votes her way. In short, the problem may be finding someone to compete with her on even terms.
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That observation, however, does lead me to another. I'm not saying this is a good idea, but let's imagine for a moment

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Mr. Fires
Slogan: (don't have one, sorry)

Platform: Mr. Fires promises to keep the gaslights on, to maintain a society where Londoners can explore the Neath's many delights in peace. (Does exploring these delights really lead to a peaceful society? Look, he's a merchant, not a logician; stop asking questions and nobody will get hurt.)

Support: If we give the Dockers to the Pirate-Poet, Mr. Fires is diametrically opposed to her. He will have the support of the Constabulary, certainly, and his business connections will give him a lukewarm connection to Society. (An opponent like the Pirate-Poet may, however, drive them into his arms.) His control over the candle market might also be used to put pressure on the Church, which (especially if the other candidates are worrisome) might bring them around, too, under protest. Yes, this coalition is mostly unwillingly being forced into being, but, well, have you met the neddy men?

Opponents: Everyone else? Well, Dockers and Revolutionaries, clearly. Probably Criminals, though I'm sure he has contacts. His schemes for London indirectly pit him against the Bohemians on several levels. In other words, the natural allies of the Pirate-Poet are the natural enemies of Mr. Fires, and vice versa. (That said, in a Poetless race, I could see Mr. Fires' well-documented hedonism and connection with the Bazaarine school win over the Bohemians, at need.)

Problems: Well, he's a Master. This is a more dangerous violation of the base premises than the Captivating Princess ever could be, and I'm not going to say it's a good idea. However, the pull of a Master might be enough to counterbalance the popularity of the Pirate-Poet and make a fairer competition. (Yes, I said Master, Pirate-Poet, and fair all in one sentence. I know.) That in itself creates a problem, however, because it makes a third candidate even more difficult. We don't want a final product of Caesar/Pompey/Crassus, or still worse Antony/Octavian/Lepidus. How do we end up without a third wheel on this bicycle?
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You've got me. I don't know. I can at least tell you what we have to work with:

- Tomb Colonies, Great Game, Hell, and (if we want to work with them) Rubbery Men.
- Possibly Urchins, Criminals, or even the Church, or at least part of the Church. (It would be interesting to me to see the faction divided, maybe along the Fiacre's/Southwark split, maybe not.) Perhaps shake things up by giving the Duchess or the Widow a voice.
- Needs a platform sufficiently outside the status quo/revolutionary dichotomy to draw people sick of, bored of, or uninterested in it
- Needs to be a fairly decent person, someone that those who have major problems with the other two can rally behind
- Should probably be a good, old-fashioned human being

Is there a strong candidate that fits here? Factionally, I could see the Gracious Widow solving our problems, but she certainly won't help anyone put off by the other two, and I've not put any real thought into her platform. Also, I don't know that she'd be strong enough to compete with the other two (though she might be), and it's hard to run a campaign from a darkened room (not that similar problems stopped Slowcake). Maybe the Northbound Parliamentarian? She's got Colony connections, and a clear candle-lit platform that puts her at particular odds with Mr. Fires. If somehow we could bring in the Game she might be viable; I might also give her Society and let Mr. Fires have Hell in exchange. Still, someone would have to do an exceptional job to bring her up to par, and I don't know for certain that it could be done.

Anyway, this is just a thought exercise; while the Pirate-Poet looks like a real possibility, giving in to the temptation to pair her with Mr. Fires has BAD IDEA written all over it. Still, it was fun to think about, and I'd love to hear if it sparked any interesting thoughts in you.
edited by Siankan on 11/28/2018

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Osborn Draiss
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5 days ago
Maybe the president of Benthic collage? That would get Hell and probably the rubbery men to, and I'm sure some finagling we could get the great game on their side to. Some of the other criteria are a bit iffy, but maybe we can bring in the Provost instead of Mr. Fires for a final showdown of collages.

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Catherine Raymond
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5 days ago
That would actually be a pretty fun event. Mayor takes off in the middle of her term- what do we do next? Chase her down and bring her back? Call for an early election?



In real life (or at least in any approximation of same more rigorous than Fallen London), they probably would call for another election. I suspect Failbetter's stafff would revolt at having to deal with Election Madness twice in one year.

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