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Tay1or
Tay1or
Posts: 97

11 days ago
Actually, I have +53 of Persuasive equipment, etc. So actually, if I overcap to 215 to work toward Prominence, all I need is a mood card on top of that, right? 207 would do it--but I'd go all the way to 215. 290 Persuasive doesn't seem quite as far away as 300 Watchful did. That last 5 or 10 of Watchful was a bear.
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Alice Lutwidge
Alice Lutwidge
Posts: 27

11 days ago
Tay1or wrote:
Actually, I have +53 of Persuasive equipment, etc. So actually, if I overcap to 215 to work toward Prominence, all I need is a mood card on top of that, right? 207 would do it--but I'd go all the way to 215. 290 Persuasive doesn't seem quite as far away as 300 Watchful did. That last 5 or 10 of Watchful was a bear.

In this case, 207 unfortunately wouldn't be quite enough. I looked at your profile (to get a breakdown of your setup and give a better explanation based off of it, not to creep! :P) and your total bonuses before using a Mood will actually be +45--since Moods take up the hat slot, to get a more accurate total you should exclude your current hat.

However! Since you said your plan is to overcap all the way to Persuasive 215, +45 actually will be enough. After using a Mood, you'll then get +75 from your gear, plus 215 will equal 290 exactly smile

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Tay1or
Tay1or
Posts: 97

11 days ago
Ah--yes, thanks! I keep forgetting about the mood taking the hat slot! I did Courier's Footprint before going for PP, in fact I only went for 215 because I had CF. This time around, I'll wait until I have 215, anyway. Thanks so much for the reply!
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Optimatum
Optimatum
Posts: 2791

11 days ago
Estelle Knoht wrote:
Optimatum wrote:
We had the weird giving-items-qualities thing for that with Enthralling, back in the day. (Not sure if that was removed or just made invisible though.)

A separate inventory category for literary works would be nice though.

Item tags are most likely removed. That goes for both Intoxicated and Enthralling.

Then again, Enthralling was a bit all over the places (it seemed a bit odd for the newspaper ingredients to have it, for example) and the only time it was helpful was trading in Short Stories during Election.

Intoxicated got used a couple times in Flint and other places. I wonder how those options have changed...

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genesis
genesis
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11 days ago
Optimatum wrote:

Intoxicated got used a couple times in Flint and other places. I wonder how those options have changed...



They now simply require cheap wine.
edited by genesis on 11/13/2017

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Reinol von Lorica
Reinol von Lorica
Posts: 40

10 days ago
So getting Persuasive to 290 is only possible with a Mood Card? Or is there still a way?

http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Reinol%20von%20Lorica
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Kaijyuu
Kaijyuu
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10 days ago
With a Persuasive destiny and overcapping as legendary charisma it's possible without a mood. I wouldn't switch a destiny or specialization for that though, since mood cards are easy enough to come by (I get 3-4 every month).
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dov
dov
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10 days ago
Kaijyuu wrote:
mood cards are easy enough to come by (I get 3-4 every month).

I get 2-3 of them a year :-(

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Kaijyuu
Kaijyuu
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10 days ago
I discard them all since I have no use for them :V
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Tay1or
Tay1or
Posts: 97

10 days ago
A number of the new options (fictional film and documentary, Nocturnal and Elder Continent poems) give you the chance to stock up on the first tier items that lead to the third tier making waves carousel. That'll make the notability grind much easier.
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Reinol von Lorica
Reinol von Lorica
Posts: 40

9 days ago
Kaijyuu wrote:
With a Persuasive destiny and overcapping as legendary charisma it's possible without a mood. I wouldn't switch a destiny or specialization for that though, since mood cards are easy enough to come by (I get 3-4 every month).


Alas, the destiny bereft upon me is a Watchful one. Though I hope you are right in that regard of moods. I've only drawn 3 in my few months playing.
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dov
dov
Posts: 2156

9 days ago
Drake Dynamo wrote:
advancing the Poet-Laureate quality does not simply subtract the requisite points of a Fine Piece- it zeros it (I learned this the hard way, having 7 points when I needed 6).

An update:

This was a bug (the regular success/failure didn't actually remove the "A Fine Piece" quality, but it reduced one more than it should have).

According to FBG this should now be fixed - regular success/failure in advancing "A Poet-Laureate" should only cost you as many "A Fine Piece" as the option's requirements state (formula = (5 + current "A Poet-Laureate" level) ).

And there's still the rare success in which you might either lose *or* gain a few levels of "A Fine Piece" instead - full range/formula to be confirmed (observed values: loss of 0-4, gain of 0-5).

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Dudebro Pyro
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8 days ago
So that means you can stock up on, what is it, 310 fine piece before cashing it all in at once? Neat.

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dov
dov
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8 days ago
Dudebro Pyro wrote:
So that means you can stock up on, what is it, 310 fine piece before cashing it all in at once? Neat.

Yes.

But because of the rare success, you might not need that many after all.

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Tay1or
Tay1or
Posts: 97

8 days ago
Ah--I'd been wondering about that because the last couple times I cashed in, it didn't take it all if I had extra! Hooray! Glad it was a bug--this makes a lot more sense.
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idyl
idyl
Posts: 62

8 days ago
dov wrote:
And there's still the rare success in which you might either lose *or* gain a few levels of "A Fine Piece" instead - full range/formula to be confirmed (observed values: loss of 0-4, gain of 0-5).
To update your observed values, I've gained 6 on a rare success: https://imgur.com/laoOuJ7
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dov
dov
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8 days ago
idyl wrote:
dov wrote:
And there's still the rare success in which you might either lose *or* gain a few levels of "A Fine Piece" instead - full range/formula to be confirmed (observed values: loss of 0-4, gain of 0-5).
To update your observed values, I've gained 6 on a rare success: https://imgur.com/laoOuJ7

I wonder if the possible range for the rare success is dependent on the current level of "A Poet-Laureate".

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genesis
genesis
Posts: 809

8 days ago
dov wrote:

I wonder if the possible range for the rare success is dependent on the current level of "A Poet-Laureate".



From the screenshot above, the simplest formula matching those figures would be "Poet-Laureate - 5", which would also account for the rare success both increasing and decreasing A Fine Piece (since for PL < 5, the change would be negative)

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idyl
idyl
Posts: 62

8 days ago
dov wrote:
I wonder if the possible range for the rare success is dependent on the current level of "A Poet-Laureate".
I almost definitely think so. What genesis says about "Poet-Laureate - 5" makes sense too. I haven't had a rare success since that one, which was almost two weeks ago. If I get another, I'll check to see if the formula works.

edit: One of my old rare success matches this formula: https://i.imgur.com/io3y9NL.jpg

and the other example from that reddit thread matches as well: https://i.redditmedia.com/YCC39YJjj02CVH3yfcND-wZ2UqykOa0GT7Vx_jQDefc.png?w=431&s=02864a97f718e55ed69e5012266f1920

I'm certain now that genesis has the correct idea with this. Good eye.

The rare success results in your "A Fine Piece" level changing by [your new Poet-Laureate level - 5]

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edited by idyl on 11/16/2017
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Optimatum
Optimatum
Posts: 2791

8 days ago
That's definitely not it. Maybe the range scales with Poet-Laureate, but for my first level I got the rare success and lost 4 AFP rather than gaining any.

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