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Drake Dynamo
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10/19/2017
So, it appears returning to the Empress's court has added a new option: become a Poet Laureate. Since, of the players I have spoken with, I appear to be the furthest along, I will endeavor to explain how this mechanic seems to work so far, making any necessary updates as I go along.

First, completing a work in the Empress's court now nets you a quality called "a Fine Piece." Projects that require 34 inspiration will give you 3 points of a Fine Piece, while projects that require 24 will only give you 2 points.

Second, to be able to "accept your due" as a laureate, you need to raise a separate quality (aptly titled "a Poet-Laureate") to 20 via the "submit your work for consideration" option in the Laureate Among Poets storylet. Raising the Poet-Laureate quality requires spending your Fine Piece quality. To go from 0 to 1 require 5 points of a Fine Piece.

On the surface, this doesn't seem so bad. 1 large project and 1 small project, 20 times. However, going from level 1 to 2 of a Poet-Laureate costs 6 points of a Fine Piece, and currently the requirement to go from 2 to 3 is 7 points of a Fine Piece. Furthermore, advancing the Poet-Laureate quality does not simply subtract the requisite points of a Fine Piece- it zeros it (I learned this the hard way, having 7 points when I needed 6).

If the Fine Piece requirement continues to rise at a rate of 1 per level, that means that going from Poet-Laureate 19 to 20 will cost a whopping 24 points of a Fine Piece ( the equivalent of eight 34 inspiration projects, or twelve 24 inspiration projects). Because this quality zeroes upon each advancement, you'll have to do the exact number of works required to avoid 'wasting' points of this quality.
To conclude, this looks like it's turning out to be quite a lengthy grind.

If your experience has been different than mine, or if it appears I've gotten anything wrong, please let me know and I'll do my best to amend this.


Edit: Thanks to user idyl, who did a lot of the math I was too lazy to do, and came up with this handy dandy chart. https://imgur.com/2b7VI2a
I will follow this path, and see how it goes.
Edit #2: Suinicide has informed me that there is a rare success going from one level of Poet Laureate to the next where your Fine Piece quality is only halved.
edited by Drake Dynamo on 10/20/2017
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Dudebro Pyro
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10/19/2017
The interesting thing is that Inspiration 24 is 300CP, and 34 is 595CP. So before being banished, the 34-inspiration works give double the rewards of 24-inspiration works. I find it very curious that this isn't the case here - and it also means that it's not actually wasteful to write two 24-inspiration works for 4 Fine Piece even if you only need 3 FP points, since you'd have expended the same amount of actions on the 34-inspiration work anyway.

Using this fact, we can calculate that 150 24-inspiration works are needed to reach PL20 (sum from 3 to 12, multiplied by 2). Assuming 10 inspiration per action (please correct me if this isn't accurate once you get unbanished - I still haven't been banished in the first place), and without taking into account rare successes, that's 4,500 actions. Using the 15-inspiration option that messes with your quirks (again, assuming that doesn't change after you get banished), it's 3,000 actions.

So overall, about a month's grind or so.

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Aniline
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10/19/2017
Do the long works still give the items ("Copy of Your ...")?

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Sara Hysaro
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10/19/2017
I tried out Films and didn't get anything for that, so it seems reasonable to assume that there aren't any new ones. I imagine the old options will still provide the item souvenirs.

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Sir Frederick
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10/19/2017
Fashion didn't give a keepsake either. I'm working on a poem now - I'll report back if there are any new options there!

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Delta67
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10/20/2017
That sounds quite absurd, far worse than any other grinding (cider excluded). Well, it's for end-game so if I'm cleared with other goals I'd be after this one.

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Winthropx
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10/20/2017
Sir Frederick Tanah-Chook wrote:
Fashion didn't give a keepsake either. I'm working on a poem now - I'll report back if there are any new options there!



There are two new options for both poem and novel works.

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Waterpls
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10/20/2017
Is it basically good old Symphony @ The lead? Just as SotC:10 grind but much longer.

I hope in the end there is option to spend 400 000+ moon pearls on something. Or just swim in them.
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Sir Frederick
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10/20/2017
Winthropx wrote:
There are two new options for both poem and novel works.


Just finished my poem and there were actually three new options - a zailing poem, an Elder Continent poem, and a poem based on my artistic school (in this case, the Nocturnals). If all the schools are included, that's seven new poems!

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suinicide
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10/20/2017
Same for novels!

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Sara Hysaro
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10/20/2017
Not so for Symphonies, at least - the only school related option I saw there was to not be associated with any of them.

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Anne Auclair
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10/20/2017
Sir Frederick Tanah-Chook wrote:
Winthropx wrote:
There are two new options for both poem and novel works.


Just finished my poem and there were actually three new options - a zailing poem, an Elder Continent poem, and a poem based on my artistic school (in this case, the Nocturnals). If all the schools are included, that's seven new poems!

suinicide wrote:
Same for novels!

Omigawd, your artistic school seriously plays a role?! ^_^ That's fantastic!!

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Sir Frederick
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10/20/2017
Pretty damn cool! I have put my Nocturnal Rhapsody on my mantel - it's rather sweet!

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Winthropx
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10/20/2017
Sir Frederick Tanah-Chook wrote:
Winthropx wrote:
There are two new options for both poem and novel works.


Just finished my poem and there were actually three new options - a zailing poem, an Elder Continent poem, and a poem based on my artistic school (in this case, the Nocturnals). If all the schools are included, that's seven new poems!


Oh, I forgot about the school options. The poem a Nocturals option, the novel had the bazaar associated school for an option. The other schools don't have an option in these works.

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Anne Auclair
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10/20/2017
Winthropx wrote:
Sir Frederick Tanah-Chook wrote:
Winthropx wrote:
There are two new options for both poem and novel works.


Just finished my poem and there were actually three new options - a zailing poem, an Elder Continent poem, and a poem based on my artistic school (in this case, the Nocturnals). If all the schools are included, that's seven new poems!


Oh, I forgot about the school options. The poem a Nocturals option, the novel had the bazaar associated school for an option. The other schools don't have an option in these works.

Do the Celestials or Mycologenes show up in any other works?

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The Soft-Hearted Revolutionary
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10/20/2017
Although I don't remember in which category, I have seen both an option for the Mycologenes and for having no School, so Celestials should be somewhere
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Sara Hysaro
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10/20/2017
Mycologenes have a ballet! Sure to be exciting.

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Anne Auclair
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10/20/2017
The Soft-Hearted Revolutionary wrote:
Although I don't remember in which category, I have seen both an option for the Mycologenes and for having no School, so Celestials should be somewhere

What was the No School one?

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Sara Hysaro
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10/20/2017
That's the Symphony option I mentioned above. smile

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The Soft-Hearted Revolutionary
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10/20/2017
Anne Auclair wrote:
The Soft-Hearted Revolutionary wrote:
Although I don't remember in which category, I have seen both an option for the Mycologenes and for having no School, so Celestials should be somewhere

What was the No School one?


It's a Symphony as well
EDIT:Found the Celestial option as well, it's a Play
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