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14 min ago
Topic:
An Observation about 1898

Honeyaddict
Honeyaddict
Posts: 418
Jolanda Swan wrote:
It would be interesting to see if people would still vote for him though. I imagine he would blame some hidden agenda for his failures, so there's that. On the other hand, Failbetter would have to let us know if he is married to the Princess or not - this was quite a lost opportunity in the Princess' election run.
edited by Jolanda Swan on 2/23/2019


The issue with that is, that if they're married (or not) then people would have universes where the opposite happened and the Fate Story might have to be edited, and there would be consequences either way. Better/worse relationships between London and the Elder Continent, the legalisation of the Red Ribbon Duels, legalisation of Feducci's fighting rings (or the destruction thereof) etc.
15 min ago
Topic:
Your characters' appearances?

TheRevenant
TheRevenant
Posts: 1
Name: Tarasios, first name unknown.
Gender: Gentleman.
Height: 189 cm.
Age: (Presumed) 35-40.

Hair: None, formerly brown.
Eye Colour: Brown irises, though they appear almost completely black under the right conditions. Eyes appear deeply hollow, and near-constantly have dark circles around them.
Skin Colour: Caucasian. Noted to look downright cadaverous.
Build: Gaunt, though noted to be abnormally strong for his build.

Usual Clothing Style: Prefers a simple morning suit, noted to be perpetually clean even when it logically should not be. The suit is relatively unornamented externally, but the inside hides at least one weapon. Known to wear an iron top hat, overlaid with fabric, to protect his head. Often seen wearing gloves of one form or another, usually with brass knuckles or a similar weapon beneath. Wears a pair of sturdy boots, both rumoured to conceal yet more weapons. Often seen to wear a pair of glasses - ivory, with the lenses made of dark smoked glass.

Usual Demeanour: Precise, stoic, and practical. Speaks very little, unless when prompted. Considered rather ruthless, willing to use brutality and blackmail as much as persuasion. Restrains himself from several of life's pleasures - known to have a strong distaste for Prisoner's Honey, and is rarely seen indulging himself. Despite this, he has displayed a more melancholic and magnanimous side, and is known to be quite protective of some individuals close to him. Despite his ferocity, he is known to prefer a subtle approach to problems, and is known for his insightful analysis of various events. Frequently takes cases in Ladybones Road, but has recently switched his operations to Watchmaker's Hill. Rumours of a growing feud between him and Jack-of-Smiles remain unconfirmed, for now.

Voice: Hoarse and low. Possesses a strong Surface accent, of indeterminable origin. Mostly speaks English, though he is known to fumble the pronunciation of some words. Rumoured to be multi-lingual, though the rat-catchers of Watchmaker's Hill claim otherwise.

Other Remarkable Details:

* Nemesis: Tarasios came to Fallen London in search of an old Nemesis. According to tales from close associates and the secret-sellers of the city, this Nemesis either orchestrated or carried out the murder of Tarasios' daughter, Calliope, in vengeance for her father's role in the downfall of a treacherous officer. Tarasios would subsequently hunt her murderer across multiple countries, sacrificing several years of his life and his position of Lieutenant to do so. Even when the killer fled to Fallen London, Tarasios continued his hunt, finally being imprisoned in New Newgate Prison before breaking out to continue his search. There is nothing he will not sacrifice to see Calliope's murderer slain - including his life.

* Tarasios is rumoured to have been slain at least twice on the hunt for his Nemesis; his glasses and attire are supposedly used to hide the scars he gained on the hunt. While the truth of such claims remains unknown, he is known to be heavily scarred beneath his apparel - including at least one scar directly over the heart, as though from a blade. According to Tarasios himself, these scars are from a mix of hunting operations, clashes with Jack-of-Smiles, and battles on the Surface. Either way, his scars and corpse-like appearance earned him the epithet of "The Revenant" among his associates, in reference to these claims.

* Known to be closely tied to a number of Fallen London's urchins and orphans - they bring him secrets and the occasional "found" object, and he provides them with protection and food. Supposedly, this is a strictly business relationship, though some claim his actions to be driven by the memory of his murdered daughter.

* Keeps a small photograph of a woman and a child on him at all times.
34 min ago
Topic:
An abundance of Certifiable Scraps

Jolanda Swan
Jolanda Swan
Posts: 1089
Ι never ever plan to seek the Name. No. Nope. No no no no no.
40 min ago
Topic:
An Observation about 1898

Jolanda Swan
Jolanda Swan
Posts: 1089
It would be interesting to see if people would still vote for him though. I imagine he would blame some hidden agenda for his failures, so there's that. On the other hand, Failbetter would have to let us know if he is married to the Princess or not - this was quite a lost opportunity in the Princess' election run.
edited by Jolanda Swan on 2/23/2019
1 hours ago
Topic:
February's Exceptional Story: Cricket Anyone?

Estelle Knoht
Estelle Knoht
Posts: 1750
Echoing everyone else's praise for the story. I don't have much opinion on the rewards of the Cricket card, but perhaps a lower frequency would be better?
1 hours ago
Topic:
A farewell from a paint splattered mog

Estelle Knoht
Estelle Knoht
Posts: 1750
Best wishes!
1 hours ago
Topic:
A Brief Guide to Courier's Footprint

Greg M
Greg M
Posts: 168
Thank you for the excellent guide! Worth noting that, for the February 2019 Exceptional Story "Cricket, Anyone?" Courier's Footprint now has an ACTUAL BONA-FIDE USE.

Which is why I'm now grinding to switch specializations to Watchful, then grinding to overcap Watchful, and then to 10,000 echoes, and then to 11,712 echoes and the Overgoat. Sweet Merciful Masters!
2 hours ago
Topic:
Tribulations of a Translator

Cpt. Eructus
Cpt. Eructus
Posts: 12
I personally had never heard aguamala before (well, maybe once or twice but I didn't remember it), so it could be relatively rare in some regions and more common in others, but I wouldn't say obscure. By the nature of the name it looks like a more colloquial word than medusa.

And in the end, I think I'm hesitant to let it go because I like the mythological echoes of the word medusa more than the so much more straightforward and pedestrian "bad water" :P
edited by Cpt. Eructus on 2/23/2019
2 hours ago
Topic:
KNIFE AND CANDLE: The Underground Leagues

Sir Wensleydale of Hardwick
Sir Wensleydale of Hardwick
Posts: 140
So I've noticed.
2 hours ago
Topic:
Tribulations of a Translator

Siankan
Siankan
Posts: 689
Cpt. Eructus wrote:
I like it, but as aguamala is already a compound word, and it kind of needs both parts of the word to be identified as the concept it refers to (neither agua nor mala by themselves convey the full meaning), it makes it more difficult to add a twist that reflects that it's not exactly the same as a regular real-world jellyfish.

How common a word is it in Spanish? Failbetter makes extensive use of rare words to set the stage, sometimes (e.g. Aestival) without changing the word at all. If medusa is the expected word and aguamala is even somewhat unusual or obscure, you may have enough variance there to make it work.

Regarding jillyfish v. jellyfish: Perhaps jillyfish might be somewhat silly, but then English has an odd relationship with variant spellings. We've absorbed so many words from so many sources that English orthography becomes very flexible, and that's before you get into, e.g., the significant spelling differences between British and American English. A minor vowel-change (like jellyfish to jillyfish) is something that we can accept pretty easily, particularly in a game. It's really hardly different from the pronunciation differences you can find even when the spelling doesn't change. (E.g. wash, whose regional pronunciations range from wosh to warsh, or the way some parts of the American South pronounce hill, Hell, and hail almost indistinguishably.) Of course, there are similar regional differences between Manila, Mexico City, and Madrid, but there's also a greater base consistency both within the language and between its regions. I can see where such a shift would stick out more in Spanish than it did in English.
3 hours ago
Topic:
Lore Question about Well of Wonders *SPOILERS*

naraoia
naraoia
Posts: 54
Ah. Well, that changes things.
3 hours ago
Topic:
The Feast of the Exceptional Rose 1897

AbermalsHelle
AbermalsHelle
Posts: 39
Here's the Princess: https://www.fallenlondon.com/profile/AbermalsHelle/15758627
3 hours ago
Topic:
Tribulations of a Translator

Cpt. Eructus
Cpt. Eructus
Posts: 12
I like it, but as aguamala is already a compound word, and it kind of needs both parts of the word to be identified as the concept it refers to (neither agua nor mala by themselves convey the full meaning), it makes it more difficult to add a twist that reflects that it's not exactly the same as a regular real-world jellyfish.


About the silliness, although I agree, I have to say that I feel sometimes translations take themselves too seriously, and don't take into account that the original can be silly too. Jillyfish instead of Jellyfish sounds a little silly in English too. "Miedusa" wouldn't be too different from other Spanish vulgar corruptions of words like "mondarina" instead of mandarina or "almario" for armario.

I haven't thought of the Fingerkings yet. Reyes dáctilos maybe? Dáctilo doesn't mean finger by itself in Spanish (only as a preffix or suffix) but the etymology is clear enough.
edited by Cpt. Eructus on 2/23/2019
4 hours ago
Topic:
Tribulations of a Translator

Siankan
Siankan
Posts: 689
NotaWalrus wrote:
another name for jellyfish, like aguamala (literally "bad water")

This seems promising to me.
5 hours ago
Topic:
Tribulations of a Translator

NotaWalrus
NotaWalrus
Posts: 155
Cpt. Eructus wrote:
Thanks. I didn't think of the flower, but I doubt I'll be able to work that into the name without it sounding too awkward. I suppose I could corrupt the word medusa (jellyfish) into something like miedusa,with the added bonus of it relating to the word miedo (fear), but I don't know if that would be taking it too far. Although sometimes they appear in common speech, these kind of mish-mash corrupted words tend to sound somewhat silly and childish and it could detract from the atmosphere more than it adds. I guess I'll have to ask for the opinion of some native Spanish-speakers.
edited by Cpt. Eructus on 2/23/2019

Am native speaker, miedusa sounds very silly. I think a good way to go here would be going with another name for jellyfish, like aguamala (literally "bad water") or aguaviva (Literally "living water"). I don't have any specific ideas but adjoining agua with a good adjective could work.


Also, what are your plans for Fingerkings? "Reyes Dedo" sounds very weird to me
edited by NotaWalrus on 2/23/2019
5 hours ago
Topic:
Lore Question about Well of Wonders *SPOILERS*

Lord Garuda
Lord Garuda
Posts: 57
You learn a little about the Halved if you talk enough to the Violinist in the Reformer's neck of the woods. There's a lot of little information about the Halved and the storytellers everywhere in Eleutheria, but one thing they tell you in the Well is that

[spoiler]the Prophet came from behind glass.[/spoiler]
7 hours ago
Topic:
The Feast of the Exceptional Rose 1897

Aardvark
Aardvark
Posts: 85
Did anyone echo the Princess? I was unfortunately offline for most of the feast and was not able to obtain enough Fate gifts in time to afford her this year. Hopefully, she'll be available next year as usual.

If anyone is interested, here is the echo for the Bishop:
https://www.fallenlondon.com/profile/Sir%20Reginald%20Monteroy/15758275
7 hours ago
Topic:
An abundance of Certifiable Scraps

Arcengal
Arcengal
Posts: 128
It's probably common knowledge but don't forget that if you're planning to hold onto the items for collection's sake and are also planning to Seek the Name in future, you won't be able to do both (without bypassing Winking Isle, anyway).
7 hours ago
Topic:
Items which are safe to sell?

Dudebro Pyro
Dudebro Pyro
Posts: 637
Here's what my point of view has always been: there are certain optimal, or close to optimal, grinds - in terms of EPA - which pay out certain items. Those items are "optimally expendable": if you sell them, but later decide you want more, and go grind for them, you won't be losing out. On the other hand, any other item is suboptimal to sell.

Let's say you need 1,000 echoes for something. You sell a vast amount of moon pearls, brass, shrieks, or whatever other low-tier item; you now have your 1,000 echoes. But then, at some undetermined point in the future, you need those low-tier items again! So you have to grind them out. Say you're using Unfinished Business, those range from 1 to 1.5 EPA or so. You probably won't need 100k right now, but in the long term, if you happened to end up needing to make most of it back, you'd essentially end up grinding for ~1000 actions (1k echoes at ~1EPA).
Meanwhile, if you took the time to grind out some "optimal" items upfront, using the current best money grinds, you'd get your 1,000 echoes in about 460-ish actions, and never need to grind the low-tier items. So, long-term? Selling the suboptimal items cost you over 500 actions. Investing those into the EPA grind would have instead left you with a surplus of about 1,200 echoes (on top of the initial 1,000).

Of course, this assumes that you'll actually need those low-tier items later. Reasonable limits can be applied to this: after ending up with something close to... oh, 300k moon pearls? - from going for Poet-Laureate, I've sold off the bulk of them over time, simply because while they're suboptimal I know for a fact I'll never need anywhere near that many, even if I keep playing for years and years. Unless FGB adds some kind of pearl-hungry action in the future, of course. But I wouldn't sell them below about 10k; same for other low-tier items. I remember trying to get the Gang of Hoodlums and realising I was out of Rostygold because "Who needs thousands of the thing? I need some money right now, I'll keep a few hundred just in case". Wouldn't recommend the experience.
High tier items are even worse: you're unlikely to end up with hundreds of them, yet you never know when you might need a few dozen for something. And their grinds can often be well below 1EPA, to boot.

Anyway, all that being said, right now the "optimal" items that are safe to sell are the rewards of the silk expedition (Parabola-Linen Scraps and Judgement Eggs) and, very slighly second to them, the tribute rewards from Court of the Wakful eye (Searing Enigmas, Night-Whispers, Favours in High Places, and Primeval Hints if I remember correctly). Anything else will incur a net loss under the assumptions above; though taking a look through the wiki page on grinds might be worth it: the old grinds, while now suboptimal, are often still much better than UB's ~1EPA, and in a pinch selling e.g. Puzzling Maps might not be too bad of an idea.
8 hours ago
Topic:
An Observation about 1898

Arcengal
Arcengal
Posts: 128
I joined the game part-way through Feducci's term and I honestly never laughed as hard as when he blew up the mayoral mansion on the way out. I got some very strange looks since I was playing on my phone.




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