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12 min ago
Topic:
Weekly Fallen London Questions, 21/05/2018

Greg M
Greg M
Posts: 69
Is there a way to raise Acquaintance: Sardonic Music Singer above 9? The City Vices card maxes out at 9, and it appears from the Wiki that all other options save one Alternate Success somewhere.
1 hours ago
Topic:
Website Redesign to go live 5th June

Meradine Heidenreich
Meradine Heidenreich
Posts: 316
This is going to take a great deal of getting used to. All that beige space! It may also be worth checking the defaults. My account had been set to private, for example.
Oh, and on the sign-in page, I'm back to seeing only the devil's ear.
edited by Meradine Heidenreich on 5/26/2018
edited by Meradine Heidenreich on 5/26/2018
1 hours ago
Topic:
The Iron Republic?

Meradine Heidenreich
Meradine Heidenreich
Posts: 316
I believe this is what you're looking for:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-SX1NLZtq9lVE5ZR3lqRDFnOFE/view
5 hours ago
Topic:
Website Redesign to go live 5th June

Reused NPC
Reused NPC
Posts: 233
TeslaWalker wrote:
Can someone tell me how to change my affiliation, transportation, and home comfort? It's not obvious unless I'm missing something.

There's an "expanded" button underneath your lodgings in the Possessions tab. That's where the affiliation, transportation, spouse, ship, club, and home comfort selections are.
7 hours ago
Topic:
Website Redesign to go live 5th June

TeslaWalker
TeslaWalker
Posts: 160
Can someone tell me how to change my affiliation, transportation, and home comfort? It's not obvious unless I'm missing something.
8 hours ago
Topic:
Weekly Fallen London Questions, 21/05/2018

Tlacamela
Tlacamela
Posts: 2
Okay then. I'll advance with what i have and simply postpone some events until i can tackle more appropriately then. Thanks for the answer.
8 hours ago
Topic:
Website Redesign to go live 5th June

Optimatum
Optimatum
Posts: 3130
Jaina wrote:
In the possessions, it feels like item icons are smaller, which is a pity because they were already fairly small. Also, **they are no longer in order**. It's a lot less intuitive when they are not in conversion order. This is true for Wines, Infernal, and Wild Words. Also, having unrelated items (like the University Fellowship Endowment) sandwiched between items breaks the flow.



As far as I can tell, the items are currently sorted first by whether or not they can be used, then by their internal ID number. This usually works fine but I'm guessing for the categories you mentioned items were added in a different order. Having usable items first also causes issues for some categories like Rubbery (as the base item Deep Amber should be first) and Wines (Greyfields 1879 gets shunted to the end).

Really I hope they just undo the new ordering aside from Curiosity. Having usable items first is really handy for a category that big. The search feature helps, but it's much less convenient--especially on mobile--than just scrolling to the item when you don't have to look for it through the whole category. Curiosity should still go back to alphabetical order though, since now we have silliness like the older and newer Court works being separated.

On a semi-related note, I just noticed that trying to inspect page elements in-browser shrinks the page width and suddenly the mobile site appears instead. What a pain.
9 hours ago
Topic:
Weekly Fallen London Questions, 21/05/2018

Ixc
Ixc
Posts: 126
It is more recommended that you play the game, which will give you the money you need, especially at the start.
9 hours ago
Topic:
Unable to link Fallen London to Sunless Sea

Optimatum
Optimatum
Posts: 3130
I recommend contacting support at sunlesssea@failbettergames.com
9 hours ago
Topic:
Unable to link Fallen London to Sunless Sea

TheScaryOne
TheScaryOne
Posts: 1
I just got into Sunless Sea in earnest (was waiting for a good sale on Zubmariner) and have read that I should create and link a Fallen London account for the most benefit. In the current game client (2.2.2.3130) I am unable to link my Fallen London account to Sunless Sea. In the options>account authentication menu I just get the error that I need to use the latest game client. I've tried updating to the Unity steam beta, but have the same issue, so I downgraded back to stable.

Thank you for any help, I'd just really like that whisper locked box....
11 hours ago
Topic:
Find Friends for sparring, dinners, chess & theft

Bitty
Bitty
Posts: 187
I'd appreciate it if someone could do some non-lethal sparring with Heathen! Dangerous is the only trait I have left to cap

http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Heathen%20Hathaway
11 hours ago
Topic:
Invitation to the Temple Club

The Curious Watcher
The Curious Watcher
Posts: 77
Den Blackwell would appreciate an invitation to this club if there are still openings. I have heard that the area can help me with converting shrieks into plaques (which I need 2640 of) for Courier's Footprint, and I would want to cut down on grinding as much as I can.
11 hours ago
Topic:
A Belated Farewell (and extension business)

maleclypse
maleclypse
Posts: 245
This was my first extension ever. Thank you!
11 hours ago
Topic:
Website Redesign to go live 5th June

Jaina
Jaina
Posts: 122
It's not displaying my spouse, ship, or club on the beta site profile view. This bothers me. The profile view overall is somewhat frustrating.

In the possessions, it feels like item icons are smaller, which is a pity because they were already fairly small. Also, **they are no longer in order**. It's a lot less intuitive when they are not in conversion order. This is true for Wines, Infernal, and Wild Words. Also, having unrelated items (like the University Fellowship Endowment) sandwiched between items breaks the flow.

The pages are in general just very tall. The fate page, for instance, is so friggin long for little actual change.


I appreciate improved responsiveness but there are so many things that are visual downgrades. I understand the desire to switch to a more modern site aesthetic but the old style was quite charming. The new one has nice elements (the banner image, for example), but there's a lot that just feels wrong.
12 hours ago
Topic:
Website Redesign to go live 5th June

Kaijyuu
Kaijyuu
Posts: 949
Opened up the beta and poked around: Seems alright.

Most noticeable and bothersome thing to me would be that, in general, things take up far too much vertical space. I thought I had to scroll a lot with the OLD myself tab! Now my equipment takes up nearly two full vertical screens!
12 hours ago
Topic:
Website Redesign to go live 5th June

lukeskylicker
lukeskylicker
Posts: 18
Now that the beta site is open and have been able to navigate at my own leisure I think I can give my two cents on the changes with more confidence now.

First off, my major issue with the picture for qualities becoming rounded has been somewhat abated by the fact that items have remained sharp. It's actually mildly usefully to be able to more easily differentiate the two at a glance. If they were both sharp I think it would actually have looked even weirder than having the two be different and substantially better than if they were both rounded. The main qualities becoming rounded has, actually, kinda grown on me with surprising speed. The framing works especially well with the BDR qualities.

I was not able to spot that detail in the video unfortunately. Would have been nice to have a voice over talking about the major changes but its a bit late for that now.

Second of all I love the new headers. That new and now very prominent art looks gorgeous. Special mention should go to Spite, Veilgarden, Ladybones road, the now splendid looking Shuttered Palace, and - to a lesser extent - the university and watchmakers hill. The former four which have new, more flavorful looking art, and the later two which, while retaining the same art, were smothered in the previous designs by things like the candle, the site title, and delicious friend being added on top of them and forcing their art to become much smaller relative to everything else. Just look at the difference between university of the current site and the beta one. I had not visited the university in a while so I actually had to go back and check the current site to make sure that it wasn't actually a new image.

Lastly, all the main tabs are much easier to navigate now. The search bar is going to make my tier three side-conversions simpler and selling things is less of a hassle now. The stories, possessions, and myself pages are more functional than before. People might argue the original design was more flavorful but I disagree. The previous design made it really hard to use anything at bottom of the page and there was nothing about the design that made it innately more flavorful. Wild Words, Rumor, and Wines which I found myself converting/selling quite often were unusually annoying. I don't think I like how it's a list now (that is, it orders everything from top to bottom) on the possessions and myself tab but it works. I suppose. I do miss having just the icons though, it took way less space compared to the new design and was still very understandable and navigable.

I don't know if this new design is a step up or not. I definitely don't think it's a step down though. Maybe a step to the side or a small step up but it is very definitely not worse. At least in my personal opinion.

The only serious criticisms I have is that it seems some of the beta bugs seems to have managed to persist to the open beta (or rather the "get used to the new design earlier" beta). The story tab seems to end up becoming completely blanking and shrinking all the way up to the top for some reason. I'm not using some super special browser (just google chrome) and I have no idea what's causing it but it's pretty weird. Also this is less of a glitch and more of a visual discrepancy but on the bazaar tab (and presumably any page where the category list can follow you) if go all the way to the bottom and switch which shop you're in the category list will shoot to the top. If you scroll so much as a pixel to make it update again it will shoot back to where you are again. It's nothing major but it's a tad irritating it's managed to avoid being spotted for so long. Failbetter has plenty of time to correct these though.

So, all in all, I think I'm reasonably happy now that I've been able to play with it by myself now.

Just one more thing though. I promise.



Failbetter. Please.

Why did you change the icon for the luminous neathglass goggles?! They had a unique picture! Now they're just a differently tinted pair of the irrigo goggles!

No, like, seriously. I'd love to hear why you'd take away a unique icon for a less unique one to replace it. Was it too vertical or something and couldn't easily be cropped?

TL;DR: Come on! If you want a guys two cents on the biggest change to this site in a long time you should be willing to read it all. Be excited! We haven't had something like this in forever go to the website if you'd like. If only to get used to the new design earlier.


beta.fallenlondon.com

Edit: Hyperlinked the site properly.
edited by lukeskylicker on 5/25/2018
12 hours ago
Topic:
Website Redesign to go live 5th June

xavicr
xavicr
Posts: 4
Overall, the redesign is pretty nice. The only problem that I can think of right now is that I can't save any of the snippets (the sidebar ones), and the snippets are one of my favorite things about Fallen London (the Starveling Ket! The Starveling Ket! What did it find in the oubliette?)
13 hours ago
Topic:
Website Redesign to go live 5th June

Optimatum
Optimatum
Posts: 3130
The header on the new profile page takes up a frankly excessive amount of space. The equipment display seems off too. It's out of order (glove/hat/clothing/companion/destiny/weapon/boots, club/transport/affiliation/home comfort) compared to the more logical order of the possessions page. It's also missing ship and spouse.

Speaking of equipment, having the outfit selector directly under the lodgings on the possessions page is rather strange. The mouseover for the lodgings often blocks the menu momentarily. The menu's placement there also makes it unintuitive for users not already familiar with its function--on the current site it's right above outfits, and thus clearly related, but now it's sandwiched between the unrelated lodgings image and expanded inventory button.

Also just noticed that item and quality description text is justified in mouseovers, which looks terrible in some cases. That spacing for Infernal Contracts is, well, infernal.

Also also, the way it's currently formatted, the item quantity number for mouseovers in the inventory isn't immediately recognizable as giving the quantity. I would suggest adding the 'x' back, i.e. "Infernal Contract x 9" rather than "Infernal Contract 9".
edited by Optimatum on 5/25/2018
13 hours ago
Topic:
Website Redesign to go live 5th June

Plynkes
Plynkes
Posts: 548
Um, the profile page of the old site does that. Has done long as I've been playing.
13 hours ago
Topic:
Website Redesign to go live 5th June

0bsidian Fire
0bsidian Fire
Posts: 15
I really like the redesigned profile page. Adding the location of where Echos were recorded will help a lot with finding specific ones.




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