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23 min ago
Topic:
Weekly Fallen London Questions, 22/1/2018

Sir Frederick
Sir Frederick
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Posts: 3089
Hey folks! Here's this week's thread for short questions.
27 min ago
Topic:
Weekly Fallen London Questions, 15/01/2018

dov
dov
Posts: 2281
Skinnyman wrote:
And the price of the Noman if someone has it.

Still at 12 ToL as of right now (though this might change in the next 15 minutes).
1 hours ago
Topic:
A most curious dream.

Necarch
Necarch
Posts: 1
I do suppose that this would be the place to discuss a most curious dream that i had last night.

The beginnings of the dream were nebulous and uncertain, but it eventually settled into a date with one of the Masters of the Bazaar.
No, I do not know which one. Yes, the robe stayed on the whole time. The night may have ended in snuggles, but that is not the important bit.

The next morning I awoke to do my things for the day only to find my journal in which I had recorded the last nights events to be missing. Searching outside the house revealed that it had been thrown into the stolen river to be devoured by crocodiles. No, I dont know how they got there either.

Still remembering the events well enough, I set to quickly write it down in my spare notebook, only to have the letters quite litteraly float off the page and waste away. Undettered, I tried again, only to have my pen shot out of my hand by some distant sniper. I took cover, and tried once more. As I started to write I heard a great rumbling. Rather than an earthquake (neathquake?) it appeared to be that EVERY SINGLE CONSTABLE IN THE ENTIRE CITY came to my location for some kind of Constables Cookout or somesuch.

I finally took the hint and stopped trying to recount the nights events on paper. I also remembered that I was somewhat wanted by the constables at the time, and so hightailed it out of there.

And then I woke up.
edited by Necarch on 1/22/2018
1 hours ago
Topic:
Looking for friends in pursuit of influence

Darkstrong
Darkstrong
Posts: 38
Looking to get the sinew of London through influence, since fighting or promoting anarchy is not my cup of tee. So I'm looking for people who are interested. I am ready to take proteges too. Be happy hear from any of you.
1 hours ago
Topic:
Currently active Access Codes of Fallen London

Absintheuse
Absintheuse
Administrator
Posts: 232
Honeyaddict wrote:


So it'd be best if I remove the entire thread?
If so I'll remove it.



After taking a look at all the codes it looks like all the ones posted here are alright to be shared currently and are at no risk of ruining any analytics we may have going. If you'd be so kind to give us a follow on Tumblr if you haven't already, that would be excellent. Otherwise just keep this as a reminder to be careful about future code sharing - thanks!
edited by Absintheuse on 1/22/2018
2 hours ago
Topic:
Extension: Library [PENDING APPROVAL]

Gallmarch
Gallmarch
Posts: 69
Kaijyuu wrote:
Just installed this and noticed a few missing ones:

Celebrated Short Story - 18396
Note: A Meeting in the Forgotten Quarter - 399
Trade Secret - 13640

The latter two are more dubious but thought I'd mention.


Thanks! I've published an update that includes the Celebrated Short Story; I'd prefer to hear what people think about the other two before I do anything about it, though. (I agree they're a bit dubious but I'm happy to go with whatever's most useful to people.)
2 hours ago
Topic:
In Red, Underlined: OOC Discussion

shylarah
shylarah
Posts: 144
If Mike wants collars grabbed and pottery thrown, Nikki will happily oblige him....

HEllo lurkers! I kinda forgot that chrome doesn't automatically reload this page when I open it. Oops. ^.^;;

Yes, steal ALL the things~!
3 hours ago
Topic:
Currently active Access Codes of Fallen London

Honeyaddict
Honeyaddict
Posts: 20
Siankan wrote:
Honeyaddict wrote:
I shall add the sources immediately

That doesn't actually help, in matters of analytics and advertising. The point of advertising codes is to gauge how many people are being reached by that advertisement. Sending people to the ad is, for that purpose, no different then sending them to the direct link; either way, it generates lots of false positives and makes the avenue look more productive than it really is (potentially leading FBG to put further resources into something that's not actually going to benefit it). If there's a code you're not sure about, it's best to leave it off entirely.


So it'd be best if I remove the entire thread?
If so I'll remove it.
3 hours ago
Topic:
Chrome extension: Conversion Helper

Gallmarch
Gallmarch
Posts: 69
CatLady wrote:
I have only small bug report - on Firefox, the part of code counting favors for renown conversion isn't working. It always shows "you have 0 favors, need 3", so it never enables the items (thus I am even more glad that now, we can enable them, always).

Tested on version 52.5.2 (64 bity) (ESR).


I've just spun up Firefox 52.5.3 ESR (64-bit, Linux) and installed Conversion Helper and I can't reproduce this problem. If you're running something like NoScript or HTTPS Everywhere, there's a chance that they might interfere with Conversion Helper, although this seems unlikely (without also breaking Fallen London itself). Without being able the bug I'm afraid there's not much I can do to help. You might have to tough it out with the workaround until the v60 ESR and see if matters improve then. Sorry about that!

CatLady wrote:

I really, really hope that version for Pale Moon or Basilisk Browser (FOSS, based on modified Gecko engine, extension engine available) will happen at some point, cause after the fiasco-fail firefox v 57 (aka "let's break 99% of addons for sheer fun of it") come out for all, we *will* be having many people migrating.


For what it's worth, I've just checked Basilisk 2018.01.05 (64-bit) and Conversion Helper is working OK there. From what I understand, Basilisk's support for the WebExtensions API is experimental, so no guarantees, but you might have more luck there.
edited by Gallmarch on 1/22/2018
3 hours ago
Topic:
Weekly Fallen London Questions, 15/01/2018

Skinnyman
Skinnyman
Posts: 1146
Any messages from TtH that the snow will melt?
EDIT: And the price of the Noman if someone has it.
edited by Skinnyman on 1/22/2018
4 hours ago
Topic:
Books reminiscent of Fallen London

curtistruffle
curtistruffle
Posts: 39
An inevident entry: Arkady and Boris Strugatsky' novel "The Doomed City". It is a depressive surrealistic "social fiction" thing (like a lot of their authorship). People drawn from our world by mysterious Mentors live there in a City for a sake of bizarre experiment. Artificial sun turns on and off at certain time like a lantern. People of different languages communicate easily for a reason unknown. There are no known human settlements outside of the City, yet there are rumours of sinister Anti-City on the other side of the world. In the final part of the novel protagonists are involved into a scientific expedition to the wasteland seeded with remains of previous settlements of different historical periods, there are modern ruined cities, 10th century watchtowers and prehistoric enormous stone faces. They encounter crazy things like talking wolves (hello Neath) and walking statues. And a final is bitter, open and enigmatic. You may read a plot summary there, but beware of last paragraph if you fear spoilers and inspired to read it.
P.S. I read it in Russian as I am a native-speaker, and I don't know if it was translated to English (yet it b---dy should be, they are notable writers and notorious counter-Soviet authors and stuff) and I would be pleased to try reading a translation. If anyone go for it, could you PM me a link? Many thanks in forward.
edited by curtistruffle on 1/22/2018
5 hours ago
Topic:
Directory: Newspaper Inviewers and Interviewees

CatLady
CatLady
Posts: 40
The "London's Periscope" - zailing the murky zee of truth since 1986 - is willing to interview ACCOMPLISHED INDIVIDUALS about areas of their mastery. Having your name amongst our INTERVIEWEES guarantees to be RECOGNIZED as foremost Neath's AUTHORITY on the matter.

"London's Periscope",
zailing the murky zee of truth since 1986,
Doubt Street 42
5 hours ago
Topic:
Chrome extension: Conversion Helper

CatLady
CatLady
Posts: 40
Absolutely essential extension, should be part of vanilla game, etc. I have only small bug report - on Firefox, the part of code counting favors for renown conversion isn't working. It always shows "you have 0 favors, need 3", so it never enables the items (thus I am even more glad that now, we can enable them, always).

Tested on version 52.5.2 (64 bity) (ESR).

//Edit

I really, really hope that version for Pale Moon or Basilisk Browser (FOSS, based on modified Gecko engine, extension engine available) will happen at some point, cause after the fiasco-fail firefox v 57 (aka "let's break 99% of addons for sheer fun of it") come out for all, we *will* be having many people migrating.
.
edited by CatLady on 1/22/2018
5 hours ago
Topic:
Directory: Newspaper Inviewers and Interviewees

Greg M
Greg M
Posts: 35
I am happy to answer any and all questions about my Nemesis. Sometimes I sing about it, and dream about baking him and several other rotten corrupt people into pies. A woman named Mrs. Lovett is helping me. I have thought about turning my dark adventures into a complex, dissonant, sung-through musical about the German word for death.

Haha! A joke. A version of "Sweeney Todd" played at Mahogany Hall recently without songs (premiered back in London above-ground some time in the 1850s) and I thought some songs might be nice.

No, but I really am going to kill my Nemesis. Interview away!

(An Exceptional Friend: also available for any non-SMEN, non-photog social actions--yes, this includes Loitering as long as you're doing it for Hastily Scrawled Warning Notes, and dining at the House of Chimes!)
edited by GregM on 1/22/2018
5 hours ago
Topic:
Favorite references to other works in FL?

dov
dov
Posts: 2281
CatLady wrote:
dov wrote:
Is there a reference to Neverwhere in Fallen London? If so, I've missed it.


Oh c'mon, underground London with streets and locations with both name and function "transformed" is a reference in itself. I wouldn't be surprised if author never had "Neverwhere" in mind, but - willing or not - it is first thing that always comes to mind, when readers of the book meet Fallen London.

I've read Neverwhere many many times (probably my most-read Gaiman book, and I highly recommend reading (and/or re-reading) it before every visit to London).

But besides some minor similarity in settings (fantastical version of London, some of which is underground) I see no actual literary reference in Fallen London to Neverwhere (see the other references in this thread for examples, from direct Monty Python quotes, to chapter titles from T.S. Eliot, etc.).

And Neverwhere is not about taking London to an underground setting. It's about finding out that underneath (and above, and in between) the real (and modern!) London there's another layer of it with fantastical elements.

Could Fallen London have been influenced by Neverwhere? Possibly, if Alexis and others at FBG have read it (which is not unlikely). But that's not the same as including a reference to it.
edited by dov on 1/22/2018
6 hours ago
Topic:
Currently active Access Codes of Fallen London

Siankan
Siankan
Posts: 439
Honeyaddict wrote:
I shall add the sources immediately

That doesn't actually help, in matters of analytics and advertising. The point of advertising codes is to gauge how many people are being reached by that advertisement. Sending people to the ad is, for that purpose, no different then sending them to the direct link; either way, it generates lots of false positives and makes the avenue look more productive than it really is (potentially leading FBG to put further resources into something that's not actually going to benefit it). If there's a code you're not sure about, it's best to leave it off entirely.
6 hours ago
Topic:
Favorite references to other works in FL?

Siankan
Siankan
Posts: 439
CatLady wrote:
As for "All shall be well", it is uch older - in fact, it originates in the traditions of Anchorite:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anchorite
...which, by the way, is also referenced in one of "closest to" artistic movements.

Specifically the anchoress Julian of Norwich. See above.
edited by Siankan on 1/22/2018
6 hours ago
Topic:
Pls add direct route: Pt Carnelian <-> Wakeful Eye

Siankan
Siankan
Posts: 439
Optimatum wrote:
That doesn't completely prevent this idea - there could be an option to resign as governor but depart to tigerland instead of setting sail.

Well thought. I suspect that it might tank your Imperial Legitimacy, though; what is it going to look like if the governor disappears off into the neighboring territory? I'm sure the Khaganians would love it, too.
7 hours ago
Topic:
Currently active Access Codes of Fallen London

CatLady
CatLady
Posts: 40
I am not happy that the Judgmental Hat code is still working upset It looked sooooo nice on my Mantlepiece, when most people thought it is inaccessible anymore. Now everyone and their uncle is going to wear one upset
7 hours ago
Topic:
Pls add direct route: Pt Carnelian <-> Wakeful Eye

Tyrconnell
Tyrconnell
Posts: 123
An option to leave Port Carnelian by way of the Court of the Wakeful Eye would make sense and be nice. It wouldn't be terribly convenient for most uses, but convenience is hardly the priority when one is either governing a fractious colony or visiting tigers in their home. It would be a kind of expanded audience with the Banded Prince at the end of a term: an audience with him on his home turf, followed by a trip home.

  • edited by Tyrconnell on 1/22/2018




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