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1 hours ago
Topic:
The Library of Nothing

Sir Wensleydale of Hardwick
Sir Wensleydale of Hardwick
Posts: 164
Crud! Posted at Bazaar instead.
Whatever. There would be gameplay effects as well, just not real ones. However, I should probably post this in Fabularities, with a link to this thread.
4 hours ago
Topic:
The Library of Nothing

Skinnyman
Skinnyman
Posts: 1722
I think people don't agree because it lacks basic math.
Or you wanted to post this in Mr Pages’ Fabularities?
5 hours ago
Topic:
Surprise Package Delivery Service

Misfortune
Misfortune
Posts: 3
So.... I keep pulling the gift card more often than I expect to, so I'm open to having a partner for this!

https://www.fallenlondon.com/profile/Lord%20Misfortune
8 hours ago
Topic:
Seeking Mr Eaten's name

Azothi
Azothi
Posts: 419
Sir Wensleydale of Hardwick wrote:
Is it possible to complete the storyline without going to Winking Isle?
Yes. Will it be easier? Not in the slightest. Details below the spoiler.

[spoiler]

You can always raise SMEN through the Seeking Road by sacrificing Appalling Secrets, Mourning Candles, and/or Searing Enigmas. This is an extremely expensive task, especially towards the end. For instance, the final step from SMEN 76 to SMEN 77, if done by drowning secrets, would cost 5,852 Appalling Secrets (worth nearly 900 Echoes) to attempt, and the challenge would have a base difficulty of 1,520 Watchful. That means that the highest currently possible Watchful, including a Mood (Watchful 327) would only give a 12% chance of success, with the secrets lost either way. So this is fairly impractical for high levels, but it works well for an early push before the costs scale too high.

Some Exceptional Stories also have the potential to increase SMEN. "The Chimney Pot Wars", for instance, can increase SMEN by 1 in one ending. This, however, would demand a substantial investment of money, and it's fairly financially irresponsible.

Furthermore, depending on your definition of "going to Winking Isle", there's the option of the lighthouse, which is, in my opinion, the most reasonable choice if one tries to avoid fasting and meditating on Winking Isle. This essentially involves grinding out St Destin's Candle over and over again through Notability and then bringing it to the lighthouse. The challenge here is the gap between SMEN 29 and unlocking Destin at SMEN 35, which requires use of the aforementioned techniques.

[/spoiler]
edited by Azothi on 3/24/2019
8 hours ago
Topic:
Seeking Mr Eaten's name

Sir Wensleydale of Hardwick
Sir Wensleydale of Hardwick
Posts: 164
Is it possible to complete the storyline without going to Winking Isle?
9 hours ago
Topic:
The Masters' Gallery of Singular Equipment

Sir Wensleydale of Hardwick
Sir Wensleydale of Hardwick
Posts: 164
Azothi wrote:
Sir Wensleydale of Hardwick wrote:
Azothi wrote:
The most efficient way to raise UP is with a Starveling Cat in the Flit. Since you only have about eight weeks or so left and this requires beginning the War of Illusions, I doubt Netae could reach this point soon enough for it to be truly useful.


Wait. What do you mean I only have eight weeks left?
I'm assuming you're advancing SMEN by one each week when Marsh-Mired is cleared. Since Netae's at SMEN 13 right now, that would be about eight weeks (rounding up) to SMEN 21 and Winking Isle. If you choose to manufacture your own calling card as opposed to receiving one, it'd take another four weeks to do so, of course.


Ah.
9 hours ago
Topic:
The Masters' Gallery of Singular Equipment

Azothi
Azothi
Posts: 419
Sir Wensleydale of Hardwick wrote:
Azothi wrote:
The most efficient way to raise UP is with a Starveling Cat in the Flit. Since you only have about eight weeks or so left and this requires beginning the War of Illusions, I doubt Netae could reach this point soon enough for it to be truly useful.


Wait. What do you mean I only have eight weeks left?
I'm assuming you're advancing SMEN by one each week when Marsh-Mired is cleared. Since Netae's at SMEN 13 right now, that would be about eight weeks (rounding up) to SMEN 21 and Winking Isle. If you choose to manufacture your own calling card as opposed to receiving one, it'd take another four weeks to do so, of course.
9 hours ago
Topic:
Fallen London: The Musical?

Siankan
Siankan
Posts: 720
The Prelude:

I. The Bazaar's Lament. Performed offstage. Begins with house and stage lights off, increase lighting (and, if indoors, temperature) as it continues. (Also known to that guy as the Bazaaria.)

II. The Masters' Chorus. Put the main actors and actresses in robes so no one knows who's who, give each of the Masters a short one- or two-line solo (Mr. Iron's is silence).

III. The Traitor's Lament.Offstage solo by Victoria, ending in sudden darkness. (Audience members who clap at this point will be marked down for the Knife-and-Candle sequence.)

At this point, stage lights come back on and Act I begins with a welcoming solo by the Soft-Hearted Widow.
9 hours ago
Topic:
Fallen London: The Musical?

Azothi
Azothi
Posts: 419
Siankan wrote:
Azothi wrote:
It's challenging to maintain a tight narrative with such a varied and diverse cast of characters.

In the end, it's all about having a through-line that you keep coming back to. Might I suggest Love?
Love would be good. I'm a fan of "capitalism" as well. Regardless, I suppose it's a matter of taste for me - these characters draw from many aspects of London, and the conceit needed to bring them together is possible, but I'm still not convinced that a grand play would do justice to the characters; more focused musicals with a smaller cast would be more effective in my opinion (though it'd sadly miss out on the immense fun of having everyone together).
9 hours ago
Topic:
The Masters' Gallery of Singular Equipment

Sir Wensleydale of Hardwick
Sir Wensleydale of Hardwick
Posts: 164
Azothi wrote:
The most efficient way to raise UP is with a Starveling Cat in the Flit. Since you only have about eight weeks or so left and this requires beginning the War of Illusions, I doubt Netae could reach this point soon enough for it to be truly useful.


Wait. What do you mean I only have eight weeks left?
9 hours ago
Topic:
Fallen London: The Musical?

Siankan
Siankan
Posts: 720
Azothi wrote:
It's challenging to maintain a tight narrative with such a varied and diverse cast of characters.

In the end, it's all about having a through-line that you keep coming back to. Might I suggest Love?
9 hours ago
Topic:
Fallen London: The Musical?

Sir Wensleydale of Hardwick
Sir Wensleydale of Hardwick
Posts: 164
Different Plot Suggestion Incoming!
It's about the Liberation of Night, plus the Reckoning. Everyone dies, except for the urchin protagonist and a select few(the Cantigaster, the Manager, both Detectives, and [spoiler]Mr Fires, who knew what to do.[/spoiler])

How each one would survive:
Cantigaster harnesses venom as protection.
Manager remembers how to escape Dawn Machine.
Honey-Addled Detective gets high out of his skull and enters Parabola.
Implacable Detective also enters Parabola, though is not high.
Urchin protagonist finds Mr Sacks earlier in musical- gives aging.
Eater-of-Chains remembers that it is a dream-hound, and enters Parabola.

All of the Masters would be like, "OH, SH*T," and get Veils to kill as many revolutionaries as possible before death. It succeeds at killing all but May and August. May is the Manager.
Last Constable or Cheery Man would commit suicide, aided by the
Cantigaster.
The Empress would seek out the Eater-of-Chains, in a failed attempt to enter Parabola or the Royal Bethlehem.
August goes NORTH as part of an argument. At least he got a Seven-Fold Knock...

It would be called Les Bonnes Personnes(The Good People), as a reference to Victor Hugo's novel.

There would be such songs as:
"Do you hear the Dawn Machine?"(Do You Hear the People Sing)
"One Death More"(One Day More)
"Confrontation"(Confrontation)
"Cheery Man's Suicide"(Javert's Suicide)
"Look NORTH"(Work Song)
"Candles Arrested"(Valjean Arrested/Valjean Forgiven)

Of course, this idea is stupid. And I legit wrote three paragraphs of it.
Have fun pulling this off!
edited by Sir Wensleydale of Hardwick on 3/24/2019
9 hours ago
Topic:
Fallen London: The Musical?

Azothi
Azothi
Posts: 419
Siankan wrote:


Azothi wrote:
Honestly, I don't think Fallen London as the player experiences it would make for a good Broadway musical. What could work, though, is adapting certain stories with alterations into musicals, which would offer a tighter story and cast.

Well, no, you can't tell every story in one musical, but who would try?
In fairness, what I believe I was referring to was the player experience of existing as a blank canvas with a very broad and self-paced approach to narrative. Essentially, it'd be less Fallen London and more "set in the FL universe". It's challenging to maintain a tight narrative with such a varied and diverse cast of characters.

From a planning standpoint, though, I really like this.

Siankan wrote:
6. Your preferred devil(ess)
Now that we have "Cricket, Anyone?" and Sunless Skies, we can give them an incredibly dramatic dance sequence in theatre history, with fire and the chorus line descending into insanity.
10 hours ago
Topic:
The Masters' Gallery of Singular Equipment

Azothi
Azothi
Posts: 419
Sir Wensleydale of Hardwick wrote:

The funny thing is, this would certainly make thing go quicker. I've been grinding Memories of Light and Nightmares so I can grind Unaccountably Peckish in Parabola.
A few suggestions, since this way of regulating Unaccountably Peckish seems inefficient:

The most efficient way to raise UP is with a Starveling Cat in the Flit. Since you only have about eight weeks or so left and this requires beginning the War of Illusions, I doubt Netae could reach this point soon enough for it to be truly useful. In lieu of that, I would suggest this:

  • You can take advantage of evenings at the Duchess' salon. This is much more painful, and it will substantially raise Scandal (4 CP) for relatively little gain (1 UP), but you can much more easily suppress this, and even a trip to the Tomb Colonies may prove helpful - the Favours can be traded for Primordial Shrieks, then up-and-side-converted to the Brilliant Souls you'll need.

That would require a Name Signed with a Flourish 4, though - Netae's bribe of wine won't cut it. The first few stages of Making Your Name move relatively quickly, and Netae needs to become a Person of Some Importance anyway, so this shouldn't be too much of an issue.

Alternatively, you can send the Starveling Cat back and forth between Netae and Sir Wensleydale. Whereas Netae's not in much of a position to regulate UP, Sir Wensleydale can do so far more easily because of his access to the Labyrinth's first coil and Mahogany Hall.

--

EDIT: To avoid being too off-topic, I've appended a singular Seeking-related piece of equipment.

The Stigmata
(Gloves)
Gant eyes blink, weeping tears of blood as the flesh tears and reconstitutes itself, an eternal cycle of healing and decay. There are wounds that cannot be healed - there are chains that cannot be forgotten.

edited by Azothi on 3/24/2019
10 hours ago
Topic:
Fallen London: The Musical?

Siankan
Siankan
Posts: 720
Six wrote:
What would Fallen London look like if made into a broadway musical?

Well, for starters, I don't think it's Broadway. This one's clearly starting in West End.


Azothi wrote:
Honestly, I don't think Fallen London as the player experiences it would make for a good Broadway musical. What could work, though, is adapting certain stories with alterations into musicals, which would offer a tighter story and cast.

Well, no, you can't tell every story in one musical, but who would try? (I mean, Greg's already lined up a festival.) We're also not talking some Iolanthe remake with a piddling dozen characters. No! But we can do that. Cats has more than thirty named characters, and it's not got the record, I don't think.


But it's worth asking what characters one would need.

1. His Amused Lordship (baritone) and Mrs. Plenty (contralto)
How would one do musical theatre in London without these two? Really, the only issue here is that their inclusion pushes us toward making opera.

2. The Masters (all played by the same actor; it's not like anyone would know, and we can always enrobe understudies in case of chorus line)

3. The Chorus of Frustrated Mayors (Jenny [soprano], Feducci [bass], Contrarian [tenor or countertenor])
A possible backup chorus of Failed Mayors is absolutely on the table

4. A certain Plant
A nightmare for the props department, but it's not like the theatre's not going to burn down at the end of #7, anyway
Note to self: secure outdoor venue, don't perform in August

5. The Duchess (alto or contralto)
Can we get Judy Dench? Asking for a friend.

6. Your preferred devil(ess)

7. The Calendar Chorus


Not Appearing

1. Her Majesty
though she can be given a solo, if all the lights go out before it begins

2. The Widow
as above, but less interesting

3. Albert
seriously, do we need to have this discussion?

4. Mr. Eaten
as above

5. The Bazaar
If we abandon musical for opera, opening with an off-stage Bazaar aria (by the Victoria and/or Plenty actress) would work nicely

For the rest of our bigger-than-Exodus extravaganza, we clearly need more urchin extras than Annie and Oliver Twist put together. I'm willing to talk about Jack, but we'd need to pass the role to a new actor in every scene. The Captivating Princess is a possibility, if she's not in the Failed Mayors. I am all up for opening up with the Soft-Hearted Widow (especially if we can get her to work the ticket booth before the show). The Turkish Dancer would also work nicely, St. Fiacre's has lots of potential, and Silas and a certain festive Rubbery have shown interest in the production. Also, can someone check on insurance rates for including snakes and trained tigers?

If we go for a modern style of production, then there are all sorts of regrettable ways to involve the audience. The proper plant in row 3 could make for an interesting Knife-and-Candle interlude (now doubt in the middle of a scene between the Bishops), and nothing says "audience participation" like discovering the man next to you is the next Jack. Not that everything involving the audience also need involve entirely-safe-and-not-at-all-suspicious-looking knives. I'm sure we can arrange pickpockets as well.
12 hours ago
Topic:
Fallen London: The Musical?

Sir Wensleydale of Hardwick
Sir Wensleydale of Hardwick
Posts: 164
The urchin protagonist would nearly escape St Gawain's Candle at one point.
15 hours ago
Topic:
Seeking a Chain Letter [Mr. Eaten's Calling Card]

qwertiops
qwertiops
Posts: 1
Seeking a calling card, if any are available. It will be in good hands, and passed to another deserving soul upon my completion.

https://www.fallenlondon.com/profile/Northrup
20 hours ago
Topic:
The Library of Nothing

Sir Wensleydale of Hardwick
Sir Wensleydale of Hardwick
Posts: 164
The Library of Nothing
Home Comfort
The Impossible are here. All of it is highly scandalous or nightmarish. Bring no candles, please.
Watchful +100
Shadowy +35
Dreaded +7

How to obtain:
[spoiler]
Compile them.(inventory use of Impossible Theorems)
-Requires 777 Impossible Theorems.
-Requires 1554 Searing Enigmas.
-Requires London's Nerves
-Requires 300 Watchful
You have collected all of them. You have fed the turbine many times. Now, you must archive them.
CHALLENGE: Watchful 600
Success
You did it!
"The Theorems have found their proper place. One theorem has a Name on it. 50 others make up a complete map of Parabola. You have a library, now."
You no longer have any of this: Impossible Theorem
You no longer have any of this: Searing Enigma
You now have 1* The Library of Nothing
Failure
"Oh. Oh no. Dear God. Oh God No. Nrub lliw I dna THRON og lliw I yademos..."
You no longer have any of this: Searing Enigma
You've lost 1 Impossible Theorem.
Nightmares is increasing...(+15 CP)
Wounds is increasing...(+15 CP)
Scandal is increasing...(+15 CP)
[/spoiler]

Anyone who visits this thread may make content involving this item.
20 hours ago
Topic:
The Masters' Gallery of Singular Equipment

Sir Wensleydale of Hardwick
Sir Wensleydale of Hardwick
Posts: 164
Sir Wensleydale of Hardwick wrote:
Netae's Equipment:
Sorrow-Eyes
Constant Hat
These eyes have been permanently damaged by Parabola. A mad hunger seizes you, always. All shall be well, for that was the promise.
+50 Watchful
-40 Shadowy
-40 Dangerous
-35 Persuasive
+1 The Stench of Betrayal
+5 Unaccountably Peckish
+1 Weeping Scar
+77 Dreaded


The funny thing is, this would certainly make thing go quicker. I've been grinding Memories of Light and Nightmares so I can grind Unaccountably Peckish in Parabola.
20 hours ago
Topic:
The Masters' Gallery of Singular Equipment

Sir Wensleydale of Hardwick
Sir Wensleydale of Hardwick
Posts: 164
Netae's Equipment:
Sorrow-Eyes
Constant Hat
These eyes have been permanently damaged by Parabola. A mad hunger seizes you, always. All shall be well, for that was the promise.
+50 Watchful
-40 Shadowy
-40 Dangerous
-35 Persuasive
+1 The Stench of Betrayal
+5 Unaccountably Peckish
+1 Weeping Scar
+77 Dreaded




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